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Old 10-26-2014, 04:23 PM   #1
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Why ed boon added the characters knowing that no one will play with them (in short worst character of the game) like JADE, QuanChi, Scarlet, Stryker, Baraka, Sindle in mk9. No matter people are using these characters in daily matches but they will never pick any of them in tournament or money match, and seriously guyz i have the game feeling coming for quanchi in mkX, he will be again the wrost character of the game. :-) Who cares about that damn man who pretends to look like kratos.

Am i right? if no than i will be waiting for your reply what guyz you think about this.

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Old 10-27-2014, 07:43 PM   #2
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Ed Boon is absolutely right that he added Baraka, Jade, Quanchi, and scarlet but these characters require some specific attention just like subzero and Kenshi. however the gameplay of the aforementioned characters are totally different from each other, MK9 is a perfect game regarding each and every aspect so nothing is worst in this game. So far as money matches are concerned, the player tries to select that specific character which gives more damage e.g. (Goro Daimon, Yashiro Nanakase and Ralf Jones etc in KOF) so regarding money matches in MK9 Kunglao, Kabal, Cyrax etc select on priority basis. Nobody can deny the importance of each character in MK9. Ups and down of character's gameplay is a part of game.
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Now here you got a mistake. you said in money matches or tournaments people pick heavy damage players, i totally disagree with you. If you are taking about heavy damage you can not count kung lao and kabal in it, they are strategy players whereas, cyrax and sektor are heavy damage players. Other thing, this game is based upon strategies rather than giving heavy punish because we don't have the varities of jumps and cross ups by which we make other fool. That is the main reason why people pick kung lao and kabal but some character like baraka and other names i mentioned, you cann't either play strategy game plus damage game with them.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:46 AM   #4
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I am not disagree with your point that MK9 is based on strategy players not only MK9 every fighting game is based on strategy player but you cannot deny the importance of heavy damage players because such types of players in different category, regarding damage, Kunglao, Cyrax, sektor, sheeva, nightwolf etc are on top but if you are talking (taking) about strategy Subzero, noob, kenshi, shangtsung, raiden, sonya and smoke etc occupy the distinctive postion but so far as money matches are concerned more then 80% players in every fighting game select those characters who give more damage rather than strategy players. recent examples are (Zangief SF4), (Helena DOA5 ULT) (Goro Daimon KOFXIII)
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:01 PM   #5
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YOU ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION YOURSELF MAN. There are reasons why those characters are still there and it's the fact that not everyone in the MK fan community is a tourney player. There are still a lot of casuals gamers and voilą. Here is your main reason. So that Ed shouldn't have added them because "No one would use them" is kind of bulls**t if you ask me. I doubt Jade fans and players would agree with anything like this nonsense.

Not only those chars but Sheeva gets a lot of hate when comes the time to play in a competition. Maybe worst than Sindel or Quan Chi. But yet, there are vids of a competitive guy using Sheeva in a competition on Youtube and i swear, Sheeva or not that dude could probably kick my ass.

So before starting to invent our own thinkings as to why we believe some characters aren't worth it, let's look at the fact that you Pain may think that Quan Chi is one of the "worst" characters. He's also bloody popular. That a player wins during a tourney fight with Quan Chi isn't of your concern if i'm right. The only reason why you think the character shouldn't be added is that tourney players aren't likely to use him. And don't forget that those tourney players, as good as they might be will go for the win whenever money is on the line. I'm not convinced that all them players are not fans of characters that they wouldn't dare to use sometimes. I mean, make of me a tournament worthy player and all of a sudden i'll think twice about some of my choices if money is on the line. Scorpion? Well i'd sure think twice. How predictable has he become after all? I'm still a Scorpion player since day 1. But i also use Kabal, Raiden, Nightwolf, Cyrax and a couple others that are introduced in MK9. So there. If money was on the line during a competition? My familiar and easy to use character: Scorpion might not even make it as one of my main used characters.

So as you said, perhaps tourney fighters are using other characters in the confort of their living room. They just know that a run for money is a little different than casual arcade gaming. They still know, first of all that casual gamers are the bread and butter of the franchise, in terms of sales so, do you even think for 4 seconds that getting rid of a character that doesn't make it as a fav for tourneys is the answer you would get from them fans?


And this goes for all the fighting games as soon as they start being played in tourneys. Many people tend to play with the high tier characters. But are they all high tier players themselves? Sure Cervantes, Sophitia, Ivy and Mitsurugi are Soul Calibur's weapons of choice for many players. Yet, a decent Seung Mina sure deserves recognition. When all is said and done though, it's great to be recognize as a good tourney player and those are important to the strategy and future of quality games. But in the end the casual gamers buy the games. A playable Shao Kahn would probably have been banned from tourneys like many bosses and cheap characters have been banned in the past. Why so? Can't a good tourney player beat the crap out of him with any other "Decent tourney character" without crying like a baby because he's gets his ass handed to him more often with cheap tricks?

So now Ed and other fighting games creators should simply erase popular characters from a roster before a game release, thinking about which character gets played the most during tourneys? At this rate, lets drop the MK roster down to 5 or 6 characters next time.

Each player is different. And it's cool now to be able to have characters fixed when they're broken (Have an infinite combo or else.) Cool to be able to have something a little more balanced but you cannot... And i mean it, cannot have 2 characters unlike players, that will simply be considered on the same level of anything. Try to hit harder while hitting faster. Or being faster than a decent opponent might have your strategy lacking compared to his. Something must give. A turtle (Always on defense) might beat down a pitbull if he's needed to be.

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and seriously guyz i have the game feeling coming for quanchi in mkX, he will be again the wrost character of the game. :-) Who cares about that damn man who pretends to look like kratos.
LOL! Do i sense frustration?

P.S: Quan Chi has a lot of fans to care about his introduction i'm sure. He's older than Kratos in terms of when he was created by the way so what does their looks, that might seem inspired from one another today have to do with anything?
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:13 PM   #6
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More about quanchi

I was about to take this topic specially of Quanchi to another thread in MKX section because no one was replying here but you did jonnyrp. Thanks guy.
Infact i was also curious about Quanchi coming and his costumes in 3 different variation which seems really good but this doesn't make me his fan. Because the gameplay they gave Quanchi in mk9 makes me retarted. While playing Quanchi i was just thinking "i mean now what move should i use? a teleport? no way". hahahaha. many move if blocked gives big recoveries. So, i pressed start button and simply selected player change option.
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Oh, if we're talking about Quan Chi especially in this topic and the way he handles himself in MK9 before any other of his appearances then i agree. I'm not such of fan of his either other than the fact that storywise and Looks/character, he's always been one of my fav bad guys in MK. Using him is different though i'll give you that much.
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Hey, Quan Chi's a pretty cool character, though he's awkward to play. I like him better than Kratos, that's for sure. Anyway, characters shouldn't be judged on their efficiency in tournament matches, games are sold to the masses, not just the hardcore tournament players. Otherwise, the game wouldn't need a story mode.

anyway, those characters you mentionned can't be worse than that freakfest we've seen in the PS2 Mortal Kombat. Never like Hsu Hao, Mavado, Dramin and most of the new guys they added in the PS2 MK trilogy.
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the only big advantage with Quan chi is he has a big fan club.
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