What characters do you believe should never leave MK?

Mine would go as following:

Scorpion
Noob Saibot(Bi Han)
Reptile
Sonya
Raiden
Shang Tsung
Kitana
Jade
Kano
Sub-Zero(Kuai Liang)
Smoke
shinnok

[MKRayden]

Originally Posted by Lui_Kang_HERO

No one should leave mk forever, I believe every character has a chance for great redemption and fan base revival no matter how useless they used to be, I mean for example look at what happened to stryker in mk9.

However, I still don't think any character should keep coming in every single mk game, no matter how important of story line characters they are (like liu kang and raiden) or no matter how how iconic fans consider them(like scorpion and sub-zero), no one should keep coming indefinitely as playables for every single mk game.

Originally Posted by tonshaad1230

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Quite authentic post

[Jonnyrp]

As a matter of fact, i could be wrong but highly doubt any fighting game that is as old as MK or SF for instance should make it a mission to take characters out for good.

But i also think that these type of franchises have characters that they wouldn't dare forgetting for one game only. I can joke about things like the popular characters from these games but there are chars that would have them backlashed so much if they did not introduced them imo.

As a clear list of my perfect MK roster:

-Raiden
-Nightwolf
-Nitara
-Johnny Cage
-Kenshi
-Kano
-Sub Zero
-Shang Tsung
-Tanya
-Shinnok (As boss. Not my favorite yet but in terms of potential he could become.)
-Kabal
-Moloch (Sub boss. Yeah, i prefer him to Goro. Kind of weird but it is.)

And probably a couple others. I am missing Fujin, Sareena and Bo Rai Cho but would i ever miss them on the same level as the others above could be? Doubt it. I know some characters mentioned there wouldn't make me angry if they took a break but they're the ones i want to see over and over and i'm not tired of.

For the rest, i could also go a couple games without Quan Chi but with the DLC nowadays who knows?

[Da Repp Resents]

Raiden
Lui Kang
Johnny Cage
Shang Tsung
Goro
Kung Lao
Kabal
Sindel
Nightwolf
Kenshi
Quan Chi
Nitara
Asrah &
Every Ninja
be they male, female, cyborg or composite (Chameleon male and female).

[Shao Kahn's Slave -Lilith]

I think removing most of the characters wouldn't make the game the same.

If I had to pick one though it was be Shao Kahn.

[Jonnyrp]

Welcome Shao Kahn's slave.

I think i posted that before but there are fighting games that do smarter than NRS in terms of characters preservation. Tekken for instance. They should (NRS) keep with the canon stuff but still make non canon characters/appearances for even C-List fans favs.

In Resident Evil OPRC for instance you can kill Jill Valentine and Chris Redfield, but you know that they're vowed to come back in a later canon story.

So, instead of just having Raiden, Scorpion, Sub Zero that are kind of the safe way the sell the next game, they should keep them and start having more than 3 or 4 chars coming back each time with non canon chars. A non canon death in a game with so many characters to play with kind of doesn't matter. In a roster of 25-30 chars, more or less, having between 10 and 15 chars vowed to come back for 3 or 4 games in a row, along with a couple uncertainties and the couple new chars would be easy.

Yoshimitsu still appears in both Tekken and Soul Calibur. Dead or not he will appear in the sequels i assume.

Bosses? I'd like to see some new bosses after they give Shinnok a second chance but making them playable as DLC stuff or something would be alright. With the reboot i just wish they go back to their full roster (MKA) and start making some less known chars or C-List chars more involved.

[Lui_Kang_HERO]

Originally Posted by Jonnyrp

Welcome Shao Kahn's slave.

I think i posted that before but there are fighting games that do smarter than NRS in terms of characters preservation. Tekken for instance. They should (NRS) keep with the canon stuff but still make non canon characters/appearances for even C-List fans favs.

In Resident Evil OPRC for instance you can kill Jill Valentine and Chris Redfield, but you know that they're vowed to come back in a later canon story.

So, instead of just having Raiden, Scorpion, Sub Zero that are kind of the safe way the sell the next game, they should keep them and start having more than 3 or 4 chars coming back each time with non canon chars. A non canon death in a game with so many characters to play with kind of doesn't matter. In a roster of 25-30 chars, more or less, having between 10 and 15 chars vowed to come back for 3 or 4 games in a row, along with a couple uncertainties and the couple new chars would be easy.

Yoshimitsu still appears in both Tekken and Soul Calibur. Dead or not he will appear in the sequels i assume.

Bosses? I'd like to see some new bosses after they give Shinnok a second chance but making them playable as DLC stuff or something would be alright. With the reboot i just wish they go back to their full roster (MKA) and start making some less known chars or C-List chars more involved.

I disagree with making canonly uninvolved/dead characters playable, it's possible I admit, however one thing that makes us miss a character and long for them more and more other than storyline death or inactivity, is the inability to play as them as well.

For example, Liu kang's death in mkda, it wouldn't have felt nearly the same if liu kang was playable, we wouldn't have had the same feeling that earthrealm's super powered superman is no longer there to help them.

And it's the same thing for mk10, it will feel all the better and all the more tense if all of the good guys who died at mk9 weren't playable at mk10,(unless they put them as corrupted playables like zombie liu kang and dark raiden in mkd were), it will make us miss them more and long for them more, and not only will mk10 be more tense and epic for the fact that most of the powerfull well known good guys are helping the evil side, but also, a possible comeback for at least some of them at mk11 will then feel that much sweeter.

As I said before , no character should be permanently erased, but each and everyone deserves at least a break or two.

[Jonnyrp]

^ That's a good point about the break but i meant how MK's crew, that really never seemed to care a bit about many of their characters always look bad imo, in making a certain character or plot non canon for the rest of the story. I agree with you on some aspects, as it is always the case in the MK franchise there as always been a canon to start from with the next game. Along with what ifs endings/plots.

The thing is they never cared much about what chars should come back or have the spot or not. Canon or not.

I'm not against having a number of characters to be given for the next game (The most popular chars). But thoughts like it's always been with this franchise: Well this is a first game for this new character, but since we don't know where to go from here with him/her, they might disappear for many years. That their endings were canon or not. Other chars, for who they also wonder how to make the story move forward will still make it in so we always make one step forward and two steps back as it is.

So i guess you think i would like deaths like the ones in MK9 not to be canon. Which is all false. Even though i know we'll have dead characters coming back one day. I was just suggesting that if they're going to keep with the canon deaths from now on. They should just take some of the other characters and make them non canon to the story's evolution. That they die or not.

In one word, whatever they want for MK10 or whatever MK9 death they want to keep as canon. Whatever MK9 char won't be up for the very next game, my point is, with a series carrying along so many what ifs scenarios and retcons, not all characters happy endings or deaths should be seen as canon or guarnteed breaks.

I think there was also a bad side to the fun of having so many new characters each new game. Kabal, Nightwolf MK3/Then back in deception. Stryker, Sheeva. I'm all for breaks of a game or 2 at a certain point but i actually realized i missed them between MK3 and MKA. That "let's bring a new character there and then wait 10 years to develop this one after that game. We'll just be down to re-do previous games in terms of characters for 3-4 games in a row if need be" kind of bores me.

[Lui_Kang_HERO]

That was back when they were midway, I don't think NRS will keep repeating those mistakes, they improved on them a lot on mk9 and I don't think they'll back down like you say any time soon.

And I think that if they put your way of thinking about the characters that will disrupt their flow of thinking about the storyline and their story making, every character has a time and place for certain stories and although all characters deserve consideration, they simply shouldn't any character they want to wherever and whenever they want, if a character has a place in the storyline and can make it better, put him/her in, if not, then lay him/her off untill his/her time comes.

I think the only time they should focus more on how you think about the characters is during other possible vs. games.

[kombatant_mark_anthony]

I wreckon all the female characters should remain in the game and add more female characters to the list.

[Jonnyrp]

Originally Posted by kombatant_mark_anthony

I wreckon all the female characters should remain in the game and add more female characters to the list.

Like an all out female roster? Nah, not so much.:P

They should really start thinking about fighting and quality and then get rid of their roster for the most of it but since fans are all crybabies, i guess they won't.

Some dumbass must have written that after MKA. I still read it sometimes.

But they're good with their female roster already. If they intend to add some clothes to the new females i suppose that could work. Cuz, it's sounds silly to me but i really hear people debating seriously on that aspect alone of the females.

Anyway, as i guess i said before in my previous LOOOONG posts, a 20 years old franchise will rarely get rid of half or more of what made it famous in the first place. We might all sound like crazy fanboys but getting rid of half the roster after MKA isn't and won't ever be a given that the fighting engine would grow in terms of quality.